Summoners

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Hello admins/members of Elder tale. I was reading the information and noticed something with the summoners that I think would balance out them a little more as they seem weak compared to a particular subclass.  Animal Trainers, a sub class, is able to tame whatever beast and use it as a summon later game where as actual summoners are limited to a select handful of summons. The thing I find very unbalanced about this is that by terms a Guardian or Monk who has a high-tanky build along side with a sub of Animal Trainers can potientally be a x20 stronger summoner then the actual summoner class itself due to the fact a summon could include a super-op elite monster that they "happen" to be fighting. And Animal Trainers is accessible to everyone making everyone have the possibility to just have summoning abilities (That they also do not have to pay any MP to maintain) making the summoner class really more title then anything. So I suggest that you could possibly make summoners choice their own summons like Animal Trainers and/or make it where the summon for a Animal Trainers if not traveling with is high so that they can't abuse this with a low-mp tank build.

Thank you for your time ^^

[Murasaki]

While this appears so at first, let me give the comparisons:

Animal Trainers:
- Can tame things in the Bestiary, which have reasonable skills/abilities. Please let a mod know if someone is flaunting off something OP from the Unofficial Bestiary that hasn't been mod-checked.
- Tamed animals die if their health is reduced to 0.
- Have the level of tameable monsters restricted to the level of their Animal Trainer subclass (thereby requiring a person to invest twice the AP if they want a strong main class and strong taming ability)
- The level of tamed monsters vary greatly but cannot exceed the Animal Trainer's subclass level.
- Currently a limited amount of skills as I decide where their role should be.

Summoners:
- Have summons in the contract list as skills. Lower flexibility but you can take some skills like Contract Expansion to alleviate this.
- Summons can be resummoned easily when their health is reduced to 0.
- The level of summons is automatically the same level as the Summoner.
- Plenty of skills that buff the summon, heal the summon, etc.
- Come with a good amount of summon command skills as Beginner Skills.

I'll modify the summoning rules a bit though, stay tuned.

[Sark]

I might be wrong here, as going off memory, but I think animal trainers can also only tame animals with certain personalities (passive, etc). But as Saki points out, the biggest difference is that animal trainer pets are mortal, while summons are immortal.